Introduction: This Blog
Peter: This is to be the first of many chapel blogs. After last chapel I wrote a facebook note reflecting on the session, and Tim Krueger suggested that we co-author a chapel blog… and here it is. I’ll let Tim explain in more detail what exactly is going on with this blog. First I thought I would introduce myself to you, and Tim will have to introduce himself at some point. To use my facebook descriptions I am a Christian, optimist, skeptic, humanist, progressive, idealist, realist, Arminian, open theist, student, and missionary kid. I hold strictly to but a few of these, and the one I most want to emphasize here is that I consider myself a skeptic, not because it is fun to be difficult or something, but I find that I learn best through questioning things, by playing devil’s advocate. I find that being a skeptic fleshes out arguments, brings up new topics, different perspectives. So I may absolutely agree with and love a chapel session, but I will most likely find something to question about it. It’s how I process things, and I submit it is merely that: I’m not disagreeable, I’m just curious.
Tim: Alrighty, my turn. Well Peter already mentioned my existence in this endeavor and so I won’t do that myself. He mentioned that we decided to start this blog, and I want to say a thing or two about exactly why that is before I respond to chapel and to Peter’s comments. Peter and I are blessed to share our lives with a group of friends who we respect and value. Over the last few years we have bonded over late night Wendy’s runs, excursions to Duluth, Ultimate Frisbee games, nights out at Friday’s, sailing adventures, and so on. Typical college activities, I suppose. But what I value as much and maybe more than those things is the meaningful discussion that goes on from time to time. And most of the time, it revolves around a
That said, I’ll follow Peter’s lead and say a little about myself. Myers Briggs would tell you I’m an INFJ – an introverted, mildly idealistic, slightly feelings-oriented person who wants his ducks in a row. It would be kind of right, kind of not. I live on the fence between interaction and insularity, idealism and pragmatism, logic and feeling, frivolity and seriousness, enthusiasm and cynicism. Like Peter, I’m a skeptic, a critical thinker, an idealist and a realist. Also like Peter, I’m a missionary kid, but he grew up in
I’d like to echo Peter’s sentiments about the nature of our skepticism. I, too, am a cynic. It isn’t because I don’t like things or don’t like people. It’s not because I love being negative. It is because I yearn to understand the people and the world around me, and I find that I learn best by applying critical thinking to the things I’m told in class, in chapel, and by “common sense.” I play devil’s advocate, like Peter said, not to be disagreeable, but because I’m curious. I love to learn, I love to think, and I love to observe. More than anything, I love to pursue God and His wisdom. That’s why I’ve devoted my college career to studying history. Like we learn from those who are “old and wise,” I hope that by engaging thousands of years of “old and wise” men and women, I will come a little closer to seeing God’s truth. I want to tear away presuppositions, structures, and –isms; to reveal the patterns, and feel the pain and the sorrows of my fellow humans. I hope to see God’s beloved creation revealed in its stark beauty and the sin that afflicts us revealed in its ugliness. I hope to understand my neighbors, my God, and His truth.
Maybe I am too skeptical, maybe I’m bitter and jaded – I don’t know. What I know is that we live in a world of brokenness. If I come across as overly critical and negative, it’s not because I love negativity, but because I have felt the joy that makes our hearts skip a beat and the heartbreaking loss of our world. And more than anything, I dream of a world where we will feel the joy of Creator, and I loathe (or at least want to loathe) all that stands in the way. We all live in a world of inner and outer conflict and confusion, of misunderstanding and being misunderstood, of exhilarating joy and heartrending sorrow. As long as brokenness and pain infect this world, I wonder if any of us can even imagine what real contentment would be. Yet, we all yearn for it. This is who I am, too. Enough about me.
That brings me back to the point of this blog: namely that those passions, those discussions, those thoughts and ideas which I (and Peter as well) feel so deeply can be expressed in some way, however feebly expressed or sparsely read. We are blessed to attend a school that seeks to engage such passions and as always, when we care about something, we stand back and reflect. We are young and perhaps stupid and pretentious. But we still feel and ponder, and we share and interact with those who are close to us. But maybe we should go beyond that and, while we may never have any readers, this is merely our attempt to do so.
Chapel 9/11/2009
Peter: That being said, today’s chapel was most enjoyable. Afrizo, I think it was called, a musical team from
I hate confrontation, and fighting is definitely not my scene, but where do you draw the line?
There is comfort in what was said, but is there truth? How can we relax and let God take care of things when things aren’t being taken care of? To be sure, I’m not saying God has no role in the world, but I also think that it’s odd that we should leave everything to God when He has left us the care of the world. I believe that He works with and through us to accomplish his will, and so if we want to feed the hungry, he will give us the strength to fight for that, and if we wish to protect the members of society from harm He will work through us and bless the works of our hands. But we must fight. I don’t understand how pacifists live with the holocaust. I would say, if you’re having trouble with a professor, fight. If you’re hard-pressed to compromise yourself, fight. If wrongs are done, how can we live with ourselves if we do not fight? Strap on the armor of God, stand for His principles, and fight. This is also, I realize, a troublesome response, when God has asked for all of our cares, has called us to not worry about tomorrow, has told us that we are in the palm of his hand, has told us to love, not hate, make peace, not war, and build, not destroy. Which is why most of this article is composed of questions, not answers. I don’t know, I just don’t see how love can excuse not fighting in some situations. Please, enlighten me.
Tim: So back to chapel, which is theoretically the focus of this blog. Again, I want to make it clear that this is not meant to be a “complaining about chapel” blog. Lots of us have serious, honest questions about a lot of what we are told. Sometimes because we think it’s mistaken, sometimes because we don’t know what to think, and sometimes because we don’t understand it at all. In any case, our goal is not to pick to pieces what we hear, but to express our questions, confusions, and reactions in order to find greater wisdom and understanding. We appreciate chapel and, like Peter said, will probably be able to find something that piques our skeptical interest, no matter how much we love what is said. So now that I’ve said more than I thought I would about any of this, I will move on to today’s chapel.
Today, September 11, was an outstanding chapel, in my opinion. It started with what I thought was a touching reminder of the tragedy of 8 years ago. The theme was “where was God” or something along those lines, and it reminded us that no matter where or what, God is there and in it with us. I think this was meant to be the theme of the service, as it fits with the “God will fight your battles” thing that Peter mentioned. We sang some songs and then our band was joined by a musical group from
They were phenomenal. And the main woman was hilarious. She made a number of references to Lion King and related jokes. She got us all clapping (getting us all clapping is quite an achievement, as most of us are both Scandinavian and Baptist). Now, I’m not a great music mind, so I won’t try to describe the singing in much detail, other than to say it was super awesome. Two things really stood out to me today.
The first was in one of the first songs, which was a rendition of the Lord’s Prayer. As per the usual when I hear the Lord’s Prayer, I started to zone out. But apparently I was listening enough to hear “forgive us our sins as we forgive those who step on our toes.” I was like “hey that was cool!” and spent a short time pondering. What do we do when things like the Lord’s Prayer become cliché in our minds and we stop hearing them? I didn’t even grow up on a steady diet of the Lord’s Prayer and still, I automatically start daydreaming when I hear it, even when I consciously try not to. Granted, I am very easily distracted and daydream all the time, but still, why is it that it’s only when I hear something like “forgive those who step on our toes” that it becomes real? And why don’t we mix it up a little more often? Are we afraid to tamper? That’s not to say we should never be afraid to tamper. I think it’s really great when we can hear things in a little different way, and the main singer did that super well in everything she did. It was amazing.
The second thing that struck me was, as always when I’m in chapel, reconciliation.
While I think he was speaking in a more Universalist sense that I’m comfortable with, I love what he says. And I think that’s what went on in chapel today and people loved it. Did we think those singers were less than us because they are a different race or different culture? No, we loved them. And I think most of us do love it, so why can’t we let things like this be a major part of the racial reconciliation process? Because I’m pretty sure it would work a lot better.
Tim and Peter: Probably that’s enough for now. Best chapel of the year, in our opinion. Let us just finish by saying let’s remember all those who died 8 years ago today. And let’s not forget to love in a world so steeped in sorrow that such suffering exists.
two thumbs up, you guys (or in facebook terms, "likes this")! i am going to follow your blog, i think you guys have a really good idea and you are two great people to do this. :)
ReplyDeleteNice, I'm really glad you guys are doing this.
ReplyDeleteDid the speaker reference any scripture when she talked about God fighting your battles for you?
God declares Himself as the Defender of the weak (IE Psalm 68:5), but does that mean we lapse into complete inaction?
I like how Peter mentioned the armor of God. That passage has always interested me. Though, most everything Paul mentions is defensive (IE helmet, shield, breastplate). The only offensive weapon is the sword of the Spirit. I understand what you're saying Peter--we need to fight injustice. But how, Peter, does the armor of God fit into that? It seems, as the sword of the Spirit being the only offensive weapon, that this passage would support the speaker's message: let God fight the battles.
I don't disagree with you. I'm not comfortable with this love/grace/pacifism message either. But where, in scripture, is it contrary? I can only find passages about not murdering, loving others as you would love yourself, and turning the other cheek.
Where does God ask us to fight?
The fighting your battles thing was sort of a song, sort of not. It wasn't like a talk or anything.
ReplyDeleteNevertheless, how are we, as Christians, supposed to handle injustice? What about the Holocaust? What about abortion? What about sex trafficking? Do we turn the other cheek and see what God does?
ReplyDeleteI think this is a good idea. I've enjoyed reading your ponderings. I hope Tim doesn't mind my commenting but I have some thoughts ...
ReplyDeleteI think we need to reference the Old Testament in our thinking of the fighting issue.
In Ecclesiates 3:1-8 there is a wonderful poem that says there is 'A time for everything'. It includes things like: killing & healing, tearing down & building up, scattering & gathering, tearing & mending, being quiet & speaking up, loving & hating, war & peace and more.
There were many times God led the Israelites into war. God is certainly not disallowing war.
Also, there are many times that God warns/scolds Israel/Judah for their injustice and encourages them to correct that. I'm reading in Zechariah right now. It takes place in post-exilic Judah when they were trying to rebuild. In Zech 7:8-12, the Lord speaks through Zechariah to remind the Jews of previous problems. "...'This is what the Lord Almighty says: Judge fairly & honestly, & show mercy & kindness to one another. Do not oppress widows, orphans, foreigners, and poor people. And do not make evil plans to harm each other. Your ancestors would not listen to this message. They turned stubborly away and put their fingers in their ears to keep from hearing. They made their hearts as hards as stone, so they could not hear the law or the msgs that the Lord Almight had sent them by his Spirit through the earlier prophets. That is why the Lord Almight was so angry with them...'"
I believe that God expects us to engage our culture and make effort to stop injustice. Sometimes that means going to war. Hitler was evil and needed to be stopped.
I'm thinking too about culture. American culture is very confrontational and challenges authority. Others are frequently not this way. Perhaps in Kenya they are taught not to challenge authority to be proper. If this is correct, they may not have any earthly resort to correct injustice. Their only recourse may be to "Let go & let God." I think it is a good challenge to Americans because maybe we are too eager to challenge authority and rush ahead of God. But I don't think doing nothing is the whole picture that God intends.
Hey, I saw your blog link on Anna's wall, so I'm going to follow this too. I enjoyed reading your reflections, and commend you both for asking questions & seeking to know God more & His ways. Julie DeHart :)
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